The Lessons in Legacy Podcast, By Boodle Hatfield LLP

The Lessons in Legacy Podcast: Do we underestimate the impact that divorce, incapacity or death can have on a legacy?

The Lessons in Legacy Podcast is a series brought to you by the Private Wealth team at Boodle Hatfield that looks at the evolution in the approaches and attitudes successful individuals and families are taking to plan for wealth transfer.
In the series we open dialogue with a number of leading academics, professional advisers and business leaders to hear their thoughts on legacy and consider how individuals and families can approach wealth transfer with greater purpose.
Across the series, we break down some of the themes that are now front of mind for those responsible for family wealth and take into account the priorities of the succeeding generation and look at how, in turn, we as advisers can support and steward a legacy’s sustainability and reflect a families’ longer term purpose, values and sense of cohesion.
In the tenth episode, Partner, Clare Stirzaker is joined by fellow Partners, Hayden Bailey, Katie O’Callaghan and Nicola Bushby to discuss a series of topics that can often be underestimated when it comes to planning for the future. Individuals, families and their respective businesses will, more often than not, associate divorce, incapacity and death by their very nature as taboo topics and ones that are cloaked in discomfort or misunderstanding. In this episode, we reinforce the importance of addressing these life events and highlight why we mustn’t underestimate the impact they can have when it comes to legacy.
This podcast is intended to provide a first point of reference for current developments in aspects of the law. It should not be relied upon as a substitute for professional advice. If you would like to discuss any of the points raised during the podcast, please do not hesitate to contact our speakers using the details listed below.
Speakers:
Clare Stirzaker, Private Client Partner at Boodle Hatfielde: CStirzaker@boodlehatfield.com
Hayden Bailey, Partner and Head of Private Wealth at Boodle Hatfielde: hbailey@boodlehatfield.com
Katie O’Callaghan, Family and Divorce Partner at Boodle Hatfielde: kocallaghan@boodlehatfield.com
Nicola Bushby, Private Wealth Disputes Partner at Boodle Hatfielde: nbushby@boodlehatfield.com

The Lessons in Legacy Podcast: How is the Wealth Management Industry reacting to increased interest in philanthropy and sustainable investments?

The Lessons in Legacy Podcast is a series that delves in to the evolution in the approaches, attitudes and adjustments successful individuals and families are taking to plan for wealth transfer. In the series we open dialogue with a number of leading academics, professional advisers and business leaders to hear their thoughts on legacy and consider how individuals and families can approach wealth transfer with greater purpose.
The series provides a platform for dialogue with a number of leading academics, professional advisers and business leaders about the evolution in the approaches, attitudes and adjustments successful individuals and families are taking to plan for wealth transfer. Across the series, we break down some of the themes that are now front of mind for those responsible for family wealth and take into account the priorities of the succeeding generation and look at how, in turn, we as advisers can support and steward a legacy’s sustainability and reflect a families’ longer term purpose, values and sense of cohesion.
In the ninth episode, Partner, Clare Stirzaker is joined by Lyn Tomlinson, Eleanor Sepanski and James Woods Davison. Lyn is the Head of Impact at Cazenove Capital where she focuses on helping clients maximise impact across all of their assets, whether that be through their grant making or their investment portfolio. Eleanor and James lawyers at Boodle Hatfield. Eleanor is a Partner specialising in charity law, dealing in particular with governance issues, philanthropy and CSR planning for companies. And James’ practice focuses on the legal and commercial challenges faced by high net worth individuals, trusts and corporate structures.
What was clear from our research is that ESG is becoming increasingly embedded within wealth transfer strategies and in turn reshaping what clients need from their advisors. Together Clare, Lyn, Eleanor and James look at this in more detail and consider how the Wealth Management Industry is reacting to increased interest in philanthropy and sustainable investments.
This podcast is intended to provide a first point of reference for current developments in aspects of the law. It should not be relied upon as a substitute for professional advice. If you would like to discuss any of the points raised during the podcast, please do not hesitate to contact our speakers using the details listed below.
Speakers:
Clare Stirzaker, Private Client Partner at Boodle Hatfieldt: +44 (0) 20 7079 8170e: CStirzaker@boodlehatfield.com
Lyn Tomlinson, Head of Impact & Philanthropy at Cazenove Capitalt: +44 (0)20 7658 1385e: lyn.tomlinson@cazenovecapital.com
Eleanor Sepanski, Private Client Partner at Boodle Hatfieldt: +44 (0) 20 7079 8540e: esepanski@boodlehatfield.com
James Woods-Davison, Senior Associate at Boodle Hatfieldt: +44 (0) 20 7079 8207e: JWoods-Davison@boodlehatfield.com
Resources
As referenced in the episode, please see below links to the resources and courses.
University of Zurich – Programmes for wealth holders – https://www.csp.uzh.ch/en/executive-education-training/wealth-owners.html
Family Offices: A roadmap to impact – https://www.schroders.com/en/global/family-offices/family-offices-a-roadmap-to-impact/
The Zulu Principle by Jim Slater  – https://www.amazon.co.uk/Zulu-Principle-Extraordinary-Ordinary-Harriman/dp/1905641915

The Lessons in Legacy Podcast, Philanthropy Edition, In Conversation with Jake Hayman

The Lessons in Legacy Podcast is a series brought to you by the Private Wealth team at Boodle Hatfield. The podcast delves into the approaches, attitudes and adjustments successful individuals and families are taking to plan for wealth transfer. In the series we open dialogue with a number of leading academics, professional advisers and business leaders to hear their thoughts on legacy and consider how individuals and families can approach wealth transfer with greater purpose.
With Alberto Lidji, Visiting Fellow at Cambridge Judge Business School & Founder of “The Do One Better” Knowledge Hub and Podcast, we delve deeper into the topic of philanthropy and its growing role in the creation of a meaningful legacy amongst successful individuals and families. Across the five part mini-series labelled ‘The Philanthropy Edition’ we deliver a rich and challenging conversation that explores how the concept of legacy impacts a person’s approach to philanthropy; why it is important for established philanthropists and potential philanthropists to consider the impact of their initiatives; whether philanthropy is too much of a distraction from the important purpose of tax; how our tax system can continue to facilitate greater philanthropy; and how we can significantly move the needle on philanthropic giving.
In the fifth and final episode of ‘The Philanthropy Edition’ Alberto Lidji and Clare Stirzaker are joined by Jake Hayman, a serial entrepreneur and experienced social sector consultant. Jake has been working with some of the most progressive wealth holders for the last 20 years and is currently writing a book on the topic. Together Alberto, Jake and Clare look at everything from taxes to misunderstandings around philanthropy and how wealth can be managed in a more equitable and just way.
This podcast is intended to provide a first point of reference for current developments in aspects of the law. It should not be relied upon as a substitute for professional advice. If you would like to discuss any of the points raised during the podcast, please do not hesitate to contact our speakers using the details listed below.
Speakers:Clare Stirzaker, Private Client Partner at Boodle HatfieldT: +44 (0) 20 7079 8170E: CStirzaker@boodlehatfield.com
Alberto Lidji, Visiting Fellow at Cambridge Judge Business School & Founder of “The Do One Better” Knowledge Hub and PodcastE: alberto@lidji.org
Jake HaymanE: jakehaymanemail@gmail.comT: 07771 590 893

The Lessons in Legacy Podcast, Philanthropy Edition, In Conversation with Derek Bardowell

The Lessons in Legacy Podcast is a series that delves in to the evolution in the approaches, attitudes and adjustments successful individuals and families are taking to plan for wealth transfer. In the series we open dialogue with a number of leading academics, professional advisers and business leaders to hear their thoughts on legacy and consider how individuals and families can approach wealth transfer with greater purpose.
The series follows on from Boodle Hatfield’s ‘Lessons in Legacy’ research – an initiative that highlights that legacy is no longer just about wealth preservation. With Alberto Lidji, Visiting Fellow at Cambridge Judge Business School & Founder of “The Do One Better” Knowledge Hub and Podcast and a number of leading philanthropy experts, we delve deeper into the topic of philanthropy and its growing role in the creation of a meaningful legacy amongst successful individuals and families. Across the five part mini-series we hope to deliver a rich and challenging conversation that explores how the concept of legacy impacts a person’s approach to philanthropy; why it is important for established philanthropists and potential philanthropists to consider the impact of their initiatives; whether philanthropy is too much of a distraction from the important purpose of tax; how our tax system can continue to facilitate greater philanthropy; and how we can significantly move the needle on philanthropic giving.
In the fourth episode of ‘The Philanthropy Edition’ Alberto Lidji and Clare Stirzaker are joined by Derek Bardowell. Derek’s work sees him wearing a number of hats from Philanthropy Advisor and Author to Trustee and Knowledge Equity Fellow. Along with his role as CEO of Ten Years’ Time, which helps ambitious donors and foundations tov repair harm and rebalance power by resourcing racial and economic justice with care and confidence.
Together Alberto, Derek and Clare look the importance of philanthropists considering the impact of their initiatives, they look at how funding and giving can ‘sweat’ the most and the challenges of gratification vs impact.
This podcast is intended to provide a first point of reference for current developments in aspects of the law. It should not be relied upon as a substitute for professional advice. If you would like to discuss any of the points raised during the podcast, please do not hesitate to contact our speakers using the details listed below.
Speakers:
Clare Stirzaker, Private Client Partner at Boodle HatfieldT: +44 (0) 20 7079 8170E: CStirzaker@boodlehatfield.comFind Clare on LinkedIn here
Alberto Lidji, Visiting Fellow at Cambridge Judge Business School & Founder of “The Do One Better” Knowledge Hub and PodcastE: alberto@lidji.orgFind Alberto on LinkedIn here
Derek Bardowell, CEO of Ten Years’ TimeE:  derek@tenyearstime.comFind Derek on LinkedIn here and on X (twitter) here

The Lessons in Legacy Podcast, Philanthropy Edition, In Conversation with Ben Morton Wright

The Lessons in Legacy Podcast is a series that provides a platform for dialogue with a number of leading academics, professional advisers and business leaders about the evolution in the approaches, attitudes and adjustments successful individuals and families are taking to plan for wealth transfer.
The series follows on from Boodle Hatfield’s ‘Lessons in Legacy’ research – an initiative that highlights that legacy is no longer just about wealth preservation. With Alberto Lidji, Visiting Fellow at Cambridge Judge Business School & Founder of “The Do One Better” Knowledge Hub and Podcast and a number of leading philanthropy experts, we delve deeper into the topic of philanthropy and its growing role in the creation of a meaningful legacy amongst successful individuals and families. Across the five part mini-series we hope to deliver a rich and challenging conversation that explores how the concept of legacy impacts a person’s approach to philanthropy; why it is important for established philanthropists and potential philanthropists to consider the impact of their initiatives; whether philanthropy is too much of a distraction from the important purpose of tax; how our tax system can continue to facilitate greater philanthropy; and how we can significantly move the needle on philanthropic giving.
In the third episode of ‘The Philanthropy Edition’ Alberto Lidji and Clare Stirzaker are joined by Ben Morton Wright, the founder, president and group CEO of Global Philanthropic. Ben advises a number of private individuals and philanthropists around the world to develop meaningful philanthropic strategies. Since founding the Global Philanthropic Group in 2002, he has served as senior strategy consultant to a range of businesses including the London School of Economics; St Andrews University; Institute for Cancer Research; the Birmingham Royal Ballet; UNICEF UK, and a number of other organisations around the world.
Together Alberto, Ben and Clare look at the importance of philanthropists considering the impact of their giving, the power of innovative thinking with charitable strategies and how we can encourage the giving dial to move.
This podcast is intended to provide a first point of reference for current developments in aspects of the law. It should not be relied upon as a substitute for professional advice. If you would like to discuss any of the points raised during the podcast, please do not hesitate to contact our speakers using the details listed below.
Speakers:
Clare Stirzaker, Private Client Partner at Boodle HatfieldT: +44 (0) 20 7079 8170E: CStirzaker@boodlehatfield.comFind Clare on LinkedIn here
Alberto Lidji, Visiting Fellow at Cambridge Judge Business School & Founder of “The Do One Better” Knowledge Hub and PodcastE: alberto@lidji.orgFind Alberto on LinkedIn here
Ben Morton Wright, Global PhilanthropicT: +447813321092E:  b.mw@globalphilanthropic.comFind Ben on LinkedIn here 

The Lessons In Legacy Podcast - Philanthropy Edition, In Conversation with Professor Beth Breeze

The Lessons in Legacy Podcast is a series that provides a platform for dialogue with a number of leading academics, professional advisers and business leaders about the evolution in the approaches, attitudes and adjustments successful individuals and families are taking to plan for wealth transfer.
The series follows on from Boodle Hatfield's ‘Lessons in Legacy’ research - an initiative that highlights that legacy is no longer just about wealth preservation. With Alberto Lidji, Visiting Fellow at Cambridge Judge Business School & Founder of “The Do One Better” Knowledge Hub and Podcast and a number of leading philanthropy experts, we delve deeper into the topic of philanthropy and its growing role in the creation of a meaningful legacy amongst successful individuals and families. Across the five part mini-series we hope to deliver a rich and challenging conversation that explores how the concept of legacy impacts a person’s approach to philanthropy; why it is important for established philanthropists and potential philanthropists to consider the impact of their initiatives; whether philanthropy is too much of a distraction from the important purpose of tax; how our tax system can continue to facilitate greater philanthropy; and how we can significantly move the needle on philanthropic giving.
In the second episode of ‘The Philanthropy Edition’ Alberto Lidji and Clare Stirzaker are joined by Professor Beth Breeze. Beth is a philanthropy scholar at the University of Kent who began her career as a fundraiser and spent a decade working in a variety of fundraising, research and charity management roles. Noting the lack of substantive research underpinning the practice, Beth completed a PhD on contemporary philanthropy and has since written and edited five books. Beth is the UK’s first ever Professor of Philanthropic Studies and in January 2022, she was made an Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE) “For services to Philanthropic Research and Fundraising”.
Together Alberto, Beth and Clare look at how, hand in hand, philanthropy can be done more effectively and at greater levels. They consider the concept of quantifying the impact of giving, the role of innovation in philanthropic capital and the idea that no philanthropist is an island – collaboration and partnerships are key. 
Speakers:
Clare Stirzaker, Private Client Partner at Boodle HatfieldT: +44 (0) 20 7079 8170E: CStirzaker@boodlehatfield.comFind Clare on LinkedIn here
Alberto Lidji, Visiting Fellow at Cambridge Judge Business School & Founder of “The Do One Better” Knowledge Hub and PodcastE: alberto@lidji.orgFind Alberto on LinkedIn here
Professor Beth BreezeT: +44 (0)1227 824303E:  b.breeze@kent.ac.ukFind Beth on LinkedIn here and Twitter @UKCPhilanthropy
Links:
Emma Beeston and Beth Breeze (2023) Advising Philanthropists: Principles and Practice. London: Directory of Social Change
Rhodri Davies (2023) In An Ideal World, Would There be no Philanthropy? Why Philanthropy Matters
A free excerpt from Advising Philanthropists: https://ssir.org/books/excerpts/entry/disciplining_generosity
To study with Beth and colleagues at the University of Kent:MA Philanthropic Studies https://www.kent.ac.uk/courses/postgraduate/769
Fundraiser Apprenticeship https://www.kent.ac.uk/global-lifelong-learning/apprenticeships/employing-an-apprentice/fundraiser
This podcast is intended to provide a first point of reference for current developments in aspects of the law. It should not be relied upon as a substitute for professional advice. If you would like to discuss any of the points raised during the podcast, please do not hesitate to contact our speakers using the details listed below.

The Lessons In Legacy Podcast - Philanthropy Edition, In Conversation with Sarah Woolnough

The Lessons in Legacy Podcast is a series that follows on from Boodle Hatfield's ‘Lessons in Legacy’ research - an initiative that explores what legacy means to families and individuals in the 21st century. The series provides a platform for a dialogue with a number of leading academics, professional advisers and business leaders about the evolution in the approaches, attitudes and adjustments successful individuals and families are taking to plan for wealth transfer.
In celebrating our 300 year anniversary in 2022, we have taken time to pause and reflect on the concept of legacy both from our own and our clients’ perspective. What is clear, is that legacy is no longer just about wealth preservation. Wealth holders are increasingly seeing philanthropy as a core part of their legacy. When done well, it delivers greater environmental and societal impact, creates a broader sense of purpose around wealth, and encourages pride in the footprint our clients leave behind. However, whilst there has been a growth in interest in philanthropy, the level of impactful giving in the UK is not where it should be, despite it being needed more than ever against the backdrop of climate change, wars, and growing wealth inequality.
To delve deeper into the topic of philanthropy and its growing role in the creation of a meaningful legacy amongst successful individuals and families, we have created a mini-series within our Lessons in Legacy Podcast with Alberto Lidji, Visiting Fellow at Cambridge Judge Business School & Founder of “The Do One Better” Knowledge Hub and Podcast, along with a series of leading philanthropy experts. Across the five part mini-series we hope to deliver a rich and challenging conversation that explores how the concept of legacy impacts a person’s approach to philanthropy; why it is important for established philanthropists and potential philanthropists to consider the impact of their initiatives; whether philanthropy is too much of a distraction from the important purpose of tax; how our tax system can continue to facilitate greater philanthropy; and how we can significantly move the needle on philanthropic giving.
In the first episode of ‘The Philanthropy Edition’ Alberto Lidji and Clare Stirzaker are joined by Sarah Woolnough. Sarah is the CEO of Asthma + Lung UK, a charity leading the fight to improve care and support for everyone with a lung condition. She is Co-Chair of the NHS England National Respiratory Board and also sits on the Board of the Accelerating Access Collaborative, a key government initiative aimed at encouraging swifter adoption of new technologies and treatments to tackle ill health. Sarah is passionate about improving outcomes for all those with a lung condition and reversing the historic lack of investment in lung research. She has led several successful public health campaigns and is a vocal campaigner for clean air. Together Alberto, Sarah and Clare look at the impact donations and supporters have on charities and the work that is undertaken to shape personal relationships with philanthropists to build trust and ensure a mutual partnership is aligning with the objectives of both parties.
This podcast is intended to provide a first point of reference for current developments in aspects of the law. It should not be relied upon as a substitute for professional advice. If you would like to discuss any of the points raised during the podcast, please do not hesitate to contact our speakers using the details listed below.
Speakers:
Clare Stirzaker, Private Client Partner at Boodle HatfieldT: +44 (0) 20 7079 8170E: CStirzaker@boodlehatfield.comFind Clare on LinkedIn here
Alberto Lidji, Visiting Fellow at Cambridge Judge Business School & Founder of “The Do One Better” Knowledge Hub and PodcastE: alberto@lidji.orgFind Alberto on LinkedIn here
Sarah Woolnough, CEO at Asthma + Lung UKT: +44 (0)20 7786 4901E: swoolnough@asthmaandlung.org.ukFind Sarah on LinkedIn hereFind out more about Asthma + Lung UK here

The Lessons in Legacy Podcast: Episode Three, In Conversation with Maria Villax

In the third episode, Partner, Clare Stirzaker is joined by Maria Villax, Head of Family Governance and Solutions at the Bedrock Group. Maria specialises in guiding families around the world to develop and implement family governance frameworks to ensure successful generational transitions. She also brings a different dimension to the podcast episode as she understands first-hand the challenges that come with family ownership as she is also a 3rd generation of a family business and also operates as the NextGen Ambassador to the Family Business UK. Together Clare and Maria discuss the intangible value that is legacy, how family governance tools work with a family constitution and the importance of encapsulating and defining what a family is about.
 
This podcast is intended to provide a first point of reference for current developments in aspects of the law. It should not be relied upon as a substitute for professional advice. If you would like to discuss any of the points raised during the podcast, please do not hesitate to contact Clare Stirzaker or Maria Vilax using the details listed below.
 
Speakers:
Clare Stirzaker, Private Client Partner at Boodle Hatfield
t: +44 (0) 20 7079 8170
e: CStirzaker@boodlehatfield.com
Maria Villax, Head of Family Governance and Solutions at the Bedrock Group
e: maria.villax@bedrockgroup.com
Maria Villax | (bedrockgroup.com)

Lessons In Legacy - Episode Two, In Conversation with Catherine Grum

The Lessons in Legacy Podcast is a new series that follows on from Boodle Hatfield's ‘Lessons in Legacy’ research - an initiative that explores what legacy means to families and individuals in the 21st century. The series provides a platform for a dialogue with a number of leading academics, professional advisers and business leaders about the evolution in the approaches, attitudes and adjustments successful individuals and families are taking to plan for wealth transfer. Across the coming months, we will break down some of the themes that are now front of mind for those responsible for family wealth. We will take into account the priorities of the succeeding generation and look at how, in turn, we as advisers can support and steward a legacy’s sustainability and reflect a families’ longer term purpose, values and sense of cohesion.
In the second episode, Partner, Clare Stirzaker is joined by Catherine Grum. Catherine is the founder of the Catherine Grum Consultancy, a newly launched business with a mission to empower enterprising families to apply their wealth with purpose. She provides a range of educational and consulting services to families and family offices, with a focus on helping to understand and articulate the purpose of wealth and family goals. Her advice comes from years of experience working with families in different guises across of the private wealth industry. With Catherine’s expertise, we look at what the term legacy means in today’s world and its connotations, whether the next generation feels hamstrung by the concept of legacy and how business leaders can innovate where a predecessor’s legacy is so dominant.
This podcast is intended to provide a first point of reference for current developments in aspects of the law. It should not be relied upon as a substitute for professional advice. If you would like to discuss any of the points raised during the podcast, please do not hesitate to contact Clare Stirzaker or Catherine Grum using the details listed below.
Speakers:Clare Stirzaker, Private Client Partner at Boodle Hatfieldt: +44 (0) 20 7079 8170e: CStirzaker@boodlehatfield.com
Catherine Grum, Founder of the Catherine Grum Consultancye: catherine@catherinegrum.com

The Lessons in Legacy Podcast: Episode One, In Conversation with Dr Justin Craig

The Lessons in Legacy Podcast is a new series that follows on from Boodle Hatfield's ‘Lessons in Legacy’ research - an initiative that explores what legacy means to families and individuals in the 21st century.
The series provides a platform for a dialogue with a number of leading academics, professional advisers and business leaders about the evolution in the approaches, attitudes and adjustments successful individuals and families are taking to plan for wealth transfer. Across the coming months, we will break down some of the themes that are now front of mind for those responsible for family wealth. We will take into account the priorities of the succeeding generation and look at how, in turn, we as advisers can support and steward a legacy’s sustainability and reflect a families’ longer term purpose, values and sense of cohesion.
In the inaugural episode, Partner, Clare Stirzaker is joined by Dr Justin Craig, a visiting Professor of Family Enterprise at Kellogg Business School. Using Justin’s research on the strategy, function, management, and performance of multi-generational family enterprises and those who lead and steward them, we look at what the term legacy means in today’s world and its connotations, whether the next generation feels hamstrung by the concept of legacy and how business leaders can innovate where a predecessor’s legacy is so dominant.
Justin has authored 46 peer-reviewed academic publications, numerous book chapters and teaching cases and has co-edited several books, all aimed at better understanding the challenges facing business families across the globe and brings some invaluable insights to the episode.
This podcast is intended to provide a first point of reference for current developments in aspects of the law. It should not be relied upon as a substitute for professional advice. If you would like to discuss any of the points raised during the podcast, please do not hesitate to contact Clare Stirzaker or Justin Craig using the details listed below.
Speakers:
Clare Stirzaker, Private Client Partner at Boodle Hatfieldt: +44 (0) 20 7079 8170e: CStirzaker@boodlehatfield.com
Dr Justin Craig, visiting Professor of Family Enterprise at Kellogg Business SchoolAustralia m: (+61) 0405309316US cell: +1 (617) 971 6751e: justin@busi-psych.com